((BEGINNING PAGE 1 OF TAPE 4, OCT 21, '74, HOPE. TARGET AA = AARON, WITH 

     JE = JEMAL, AN = ANTHONY, OR = ORRON, AND CH = CHRISTOPHER. THE SETTING

     IS CIRCLE TIME. THEY ARE LYING ON THE FLOOR, EACH WITH A LARGE PIECE OF

     PAPER IN FRONT OF THEM. TECH2 IS GIVING THEM INSTRUCTION IN WRITING.)

     AA  SHE SAID, SHE SAID,* SHE SAID SHE TOLD ME TO MAKE A A (LETTER A).

     AN  HOW DO YOU MAKE A P?

     OR  YOU MAKE A STRAIGHT LINE AND THEN (INAUD) ---

     JE  AN (AND) THEN MAKE A BOX, AND THEN MAKE A BOX.

     CH  YOU DO NOT.  

     AA  HA HA HA.  * HERE COME THE TEACHER.  ((TECH2 RETURNS).

     OR  (INAUD) CAN YOU TELL EVERYBODY HOW YOU MAKE A B.

     AA  HE HE HE.

     OR  CAN YOU TELL AARON HOW TO MAKE A B?

     TECH2  (INAUD) GO ON. WHAT ARE YOU WRITING?

              PUT THAT THING AWAY. WHAT DID I TELL YOU TO WRITE? I DIDN'T

           TELL YOU TO WRITE A B --- UP ON THE LINE. MAKE A C.

     CH  MS CRUZ! HOW TO MAKE A B? I DO LIKE THAT? HOW DO I MAKE A B, MS CRUZ?

     TECH2  MAKE IT THE BEST WAY YOU CAN.

     CH  LIKE DAT (THAT)?

     TECH2  NO. * DON'T LOOK AT ME.

     AA  OHOH!

     CH  THERE.

     TECH2  GOOD. (INAUD) . WHAT ARE YOU WRITING? ((TO OR).

     OR  A B.

     AN  I DO A B.

     TECH2  WHY DON'T YOU WRITE UM, A C. GO ON ORRON.

     AA AHM (I'M) GONNA (GOING TO) MAKE A B, B, B. I'M GONNA (GOING TO) MAKE A B.

     TECH2  MAKE A B.

     CH  I MAKE A B.

     AA  I  DON (DON'T) KNOW HOW TO MAKE A ---
  
     CH  LIKE THAT?
    
      OR  YEAH, A B GO LIKE THAT.

     TECH2  LET'S SEE. * NOW MAKE ALL THE LETTERS YOU KNOW HOW. WRITE ALL

           THE LETTERS YOU KNOW. 

     JN  THAT'S A B!

     TECH2  WRITE ALL THE LETTERS YOU KNOW HOW.

     AA  THAT LOOK LIKE A E!

     JN  THAT'S A D.

     CH  THIS IS B.

     TECH2  CAN YOU MAKE A J?

     AA  OH, AH (I) MADE A B, YEAH. I MADE A B, YEA I MADE A B. ((CHANTING).

          AFTER B COME D, AFTER B COME A. HUH, CHRISTOPHER?

     CH  I DON'T KNOW.

     JE  AFTER B COME G..  ((EVERY ONE LAUGHS).

     CH  (INAUD) OTHERWISE YOU GED (GET) A WHOOPING.

     OR  OH YOU DIDN' (DIDN'T), YOU BETTER DO IT ON TOP.

     AA  THIS A B.

     TECH2  WHAT ELSE CAN YOU WRITE? LEMME SEE?

     CH  AH (I) MADE A R.

     JE  L COME AFTER --- G.

     TECH2  CAN YOU MAKE A G?

     JE  YEAH.

     TECH2  WHAT CAN YOU WRITE, ANTHONY?

     CH  AH (I) WRITE A G.

     AN  (INAUD)  'N (AND) A R.

    OR  AH (I) WROTE A D.

     AA  HEY, KISOFER (CHRISTOPHER), DO YOU THINK A --- CHRISTOPHER THINK, 

          CHRISTOPHER THINK WHEN A B COME, WHEN A B, HE, CHRISTOPHER

          THINK A A COME AFTER A B.

     TECH2  WHEN DOES IT COME?

     AA  FIRST.

     TECH2  LEAVE IT CHRISTOPHER, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE  IN ORDER.((CH STARTS

          TO ERASE HIS B). I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU KNOW. WHAT OTHER 

          LETTERS CAN YOU MAKE, ANTHONY?

     AA  AH (I) CAN MAKE A Z, ZHEE, HEE. ((CHORTLES IN A DEEP VOICE).

     OR  YOU CAN MAKE A Z?

     AA  AH (I) CAN MAKE A Z.

     OR  THAT'S WHAT I'M MAKE (INAUD).

     AA  SEE, C, SHHS, AH KIN (CAN) MAKE A O, OH.

     JN  YEAH, BUT YOU TANT (CAN'T), YOU TANT (CAN'T) SEE IT. YOU LIKE TO

          SEE MINE?

     AA  AH, A O. A O.

     CH  LOOK!

     TECH2  WHAT'S THAT?

      CH  A O.

     TECH2  WHAT'S THAT? AHM (I'M) TALKIN (TALKING) TO  --- * WHAT'S 

           THAT? ((TURNS TO AN).  WHAT IS THAT, * WHAT LETTER IS THAT, ANTHONY?

     CH  I KNOW.

     AN  P!
     
     TECH2  P. WHAT LETTER IS THAT?

     JN  P, A P.

     TECH2  EVERYBODY GIVE ME THEIR PAPER. GIVE ME YOUR PAPER. GIVE ME

           YOUR PAPER.

      CH  GIVE ME THE PENCIL.

     TECH2  WHERE DID YOU GO THIS WEEKEND, ORRON? STAND.

            UP AND TELL US WHERE YOU WENT. NO, DON'T STAND UP JUST SIT

          THERE AND TELL US.

     OR  I WENT TO MACDONALDS.

     TECH2  WHEN DID YOU GO TO MACDONALDS. SATURDAY? SUNDAY? WHEN?

     OR  SATURDAY.

    TECH2  WHO TOOK YOU?

     OR  MA (MY) FATHER.

     TECH2  WHERE DID YOU GO THIS WEEKEND, CHRIS?

     CH  I WENT WI (WITH) MA (MY) MOTHER AN (AND) ME AN

          (AND) MA (MY) BROTHER, AN (AND), AN (AND) WE, AN (AND) WE WENT TO AH

           (INAUD) BIRTHDAY PARTY, AN (AND) THEN WE CAME BACK,

          THEN WE LISTENED TO THE (INAUD). THEN WE LOOKED AT T V 

           AND WENT TO SLEEP.

     TECH2  WHAT DID YOU DO THIS WEEKEND, AARON?

     AA  ME AN (AND) MA (MY) BROTHER WENT TO BURGER K --- I MEAN WHITE CASTLE

          YESTERDAY. AN (AND) DEN (THEN) WE WENT HOME, AN (AND) THEN WE 

          STARTED PLAYIN (PLAYING) BASEBALL ---

      TECH2  WHERE'S WHITE CASTLE?

     AA  UP  DERE (THERE) BY MACDONALDS.

     TECH2  WHICH STREET, D'YOU KNOW?

     AA  UH UH.

     TECH2  IS THAT ALL?

      AA  ME AN (AND) MA (MY) BROTHER DROVE ---

     TECH1  MS CRUZ, SHE BELONG IN YOUR GROUP. AH (I) KNOW AH (I) DIDN'T HAVE

          NINE CHILDREN. ((TECH1 IN BACKGROUND).

     TECH2  WHERE DID YOU GO THIS WEEKEND, JOHNATHAN?

     JN  UM. 

     TECH2  SIT UP, SIT UP. ARE YOU LISTENING TO HIM.

           ((LORRAIN JOINS THE GROUP)..

     TECH2  WHERE DID YOU GO?

     JN  I WENT  TO --- ((JN MUMBLES ).

     TECH2  WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
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