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  ((BEGINNING PAGE 1 OF TAPE 5, OCT. 21, '74.HOPE. TARGET LA = LA SHAWN,

       HER BROTHER SN = STANLEY, LO = LORRAIN, TA = TAISHA, RN = RONALD, AA =

        AARON. LA IS PLAYING WITH A CONSTRUCTION TOY AT A TABLE. ALSO AT THE 

         TABLE IS HER BROTHER, WHO HAS COME TO TAKE HER HOME, AND LORRAIN.

     LA  LORRAIN, WHY YOU SAY I'M YOUR GIRLFRIEND THEN?

     LO  WHO SAY I'M YOUR GIRLFRIEND? YOU SAID THAT.

     LA  LORRAIN, WHY ARE YOU SAYING HE YOUR BOYFRIEND, DEN (THEN)?

     AH (I) SAID THAT AH (I) WAS, AH (I) WAS GOING, AH (I) WAS TELLING THE

          BOYS AND GIRLS HIS NAME.

     LA  (INAUD) IS ANTHONY. * ((LO AND LA SLAP EACH OTHER A FEW TIMES).

          LORRAIN, 'MEMBER (REMEMBER) YOU TALK ABOUT KISTOFER (CHRISTOPHER)

          NOW.

     LO  YEAH, HE FIGHTIN (FIGHTING) ME.

     LA  STANLEY, WHAT TIME YOU GET OUT OF SCHOOL?

     LO  (INAUD).

     LA   CAUSE (BECAUSE) HE'S STUPID, THAT'S WHY. ((GIGGLE).

     SN  CAUSE (BECAUSE) I COULDN'T THINK OF SOMETHIN (SOMETHING) BETTER

           TO DO.  (INAUD) WHAT'S THIS?

     LO  I DON'T KNOW.

     LA  STANLEY, GIVE ME THAT.

     SN  YOU TELL ME CAUSE (BECAUSE) I DON'T KNOW. WHAT'S THESE?

     LO  HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

     LA  YOU PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WITH IT. ANTHONY,

          WHAT'S THIS?   * * * 

     SN  WHO ATE IT?

     LA  AH (I) DID. AH (I) DID, STUPID.

     SN  (INAUD) WHO'S STUPID?  

     LA  YOU ARE.  ((TA WALKS OVER TO THE TABLE).

     TA  SHE'S SUPPOSED TO GO HOME, RIGHT?

     SN  YOU SAID IT, TESHA (TAISHA).

     LA  HER  NAME AINT KEISHA, IT'S TAISHA.

     SN  TISHA (TAISHA) ?  AH (I) SAID TESHA, PLAH!

      LA  THAT OUR COUSIN NAME, (INAUD) YOU TALKIN (TALKING) 

          ABOUT.

     SN  TAISHA!

     TA  (INAUD)>

     LA  THAT TAISHA. YOU BETTER GO PUT YOUR --- AH HA HA,THE

           (INAUD) CAME OUT. AH HA HA. (( LA'S CONSTRUCTION FELL APART).

     SN  (INAUD).

     LA  YOU'RE GOING NOW.  (( RN COMES OVER TO THE TABLE).

     ??  UH UH.

     LA  YOU GOT ON RONALD JACKET.  * DON'T SPIT ON MA (MY) BROTHER.

     SN  I'M GONNA MESS UP THESE THINGS IF YOU DON'T (INAUD).

          * * *

     LA  YOU BIG FAT BIG (INAUD). * THAT TAISHA.

     SN  THAT'S POTATO HEAD.

     RN  YOU (INAUD) POTATO HEAD. * THANK YOU MISTER.

     LA  DON'T GET FRESH NOW, RONALD. (INAUD).

     RN  SOON AS I GET A HUNDRED, IMMA (I'M GOING TO) BEAT YOU UP.

     LA  OH BOY. (INAUD).

     RN  IMMA (I'M GOING TO) MAKE ME A SPEAKING THING.

     TA  DIS (THIS) AINT NO, (INAUD) , LA SHAWN.

     RN  ME DO LIKE THIS, TAISHA.

     TA  DON'T BOTHER ME.

     LA  I KNOW I HAD (INAUD) LAST. * AH (I) AINT (INAUD) LEAVE ME ALONE.

          LEAVE ME ALONE.  *  AH MA (MY) NERVES.

     RN  WHAT'S THE MATTER HERE?

          * * * 

      SN  WHOSE A CREEP?

     RN  YOU'RE A CREEP.((LA GOES TO THE SHELF TO GET ANOTHER  TOY. IT IS

          A WOODEN SHOE, A REPLICA OF THE ONE OF THE OLD WOMAN WHO LIVED IN

          A --- ETC. IT HAS A LONG LACE, WHICH LA FIRST UNTHREADS AND SKIPS

           WITH SEVERAL TIMES.)

     LA  LORRAIN LOOK! LORRAIN, Y'ALL BETTER WATCH OUT, CAUSE (BECAUSE)

          I WANT TO ---

     SN  YOU SHOULDN'T TALK LIKE THAT IN FRONT O (OF) THESE GIRLS (INAUD).

     RN  (INAUD).

     LA  YOU SHOULDN'T SAY  THAT IN FRONT OF LITTLE GIRLS.  * NOTHIN (NOTHING)

          FUNNY , RONALD.

     TA  (INAUD).

         (( TR COMES OVER TO THE TABLE).

     SN  YOU BETTER STOP NOW, STOP. (INAUD) I DON'T CARE. (( AA ARRIVES AT THE

          TABLE).

     LA  HE DON'T NEED TO ---

     RN  I DON'T CARE IF YOU (INAUD).(( TR LEAVES AND GOES TO ANOTHER TABLE

          TABLE).

     LA  HE DON'T NEED TO.

      SN  I DON'T CARE IF YOU LEAVIN (LEAVING), I'M (INAUD)

          YOU ALL PLAYIN (PLAYING) (INAUD).

     LA  ALL RIGHT, TIME FOR (TO CLEAN AND VACUUM?). ((LA HOLDS UP THE LONG 

          SHOE LACE OF THE TOY SHOE).

     SN  DON'T GIVE ME SOME MORE (INAUD), THAT'S SILLY.

     LA  HIS NAME AINT AARON, HER NAME IS RONALD. * NO IT AINT TIME.

     RN  GIMME (GIVE ME) SOME TOYS. GIMME (GIVE ME) SOME TOYS.((RN

          IMMITATES AA'S VOICE)

     SN  YOU TALK LIKE AARON.

     RN  I AINT AARON.

     LA  HE SAY (INAUD).

        ((LA EATS A JELLY BEAN).

     AA  THIS AINT THE WHOLE THING FULL.

     TA  STOP BEING SILLY.

     LA  TO PLAY WITH.  *  STOP BEING SO SILLY, MY GOD.

     TA  THIS AINT THE WHOLE THING FULL. THIS AINT THE WHOLE THING FULL.((TA

          IMMITATES AA'S VOICE)

     LA  NOTHIN (NOTHING) AINT FUNNY, TAISHA.

     TA  (INAUD)  IT'S SO CRAZY.

     LA  THAT'S SO CRAZY. I DON'T KNOW AT (WHAT) THEY TALKIN (TALKING)

          BOUT (ABOUT).   * * *

     SN  YOU TALK TO MUCH, RIGHT LORRAIN?

     RN  YOU TALK TOO MUCH, THAT YOU TALK TOO MUCH TOO, STANLEY.

     SN  YOU DON'T SAY IT LIKE THAT, YOU SAY IT ---

     RN  HOW DO YOU SAY IT?

     SN  YOU TALK TOO MUCH, YOU WORRY ME TO DEATH ---(( THESE BEING THE WORDS

          TO A POPULAR SONG, WHICH HE IS NOT EXACTLY SINGING, BUT RATHER

          CHANTING THE RHYTHM.)

     LA  YOU DON'T SAY IT LIKE THAT YOU SAY IT LIKE THIS ---

         ((CHANTIN)  YOU TALK TOO MUCH YOU WORRY ME TO DEATH, AN (AND)(INAUD)

          YOU TALK TOO MUCH YOU WORRY ME TO DEATH ---

     TA  YOU TALK TOO MUCH YOU WORRY ME TO DEATH --- ((CHANTING).
    ((CONTINUED ON HOPP2).
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